I Can’t Wait To Be Patient with Dr. Rob Bell

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I Can’t Wait To Be Patient with Dr. Rob Bell

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IN THIS 29-MINUTE EPISODE WE DISCUSS:

• Jerred interviews Sport Psychologist Coach and Speaker Dr. Rob Bell.
• Dr. Rob talks about training and mindset.
• They also discuss his new book I Can't Wait To Be Patient.
• Dr. Rob catches us up on his answers to the quick-fire questions.
• And A LOT MORE!!

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Podcast Transcript

Jerred: [00:00:00] Hey, real quick before we start the podcast, if you have listened to more than one episode, can you do me a favor and rate and review the show? Now, I'm not big on asking for favors, but we really wanna get this podcast listed in the top of all health and fitness podcasts, not just the fitness category.

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So please rate and review. Okay, that's it to the podcast. Hey, welcome to the Garage Gym Athlete Podcast, Jerred Moon here. Today I have an interview. I'm interviewing my friend, Dr. Rob Bell. So he just recently wrote a book called I Can't Wait to Be Patient, and the Fastest Way to Get There. So I interview him today and talk about this book, but also just talk about his thoughts on mental toughness.

So Dr. Bell is a sports psychologist and he has worked with. High level athletes [00:01:00] from Olympians, p g a tour, like all sorts of awesome stuff. I've known Dr. Rob Bell for a long time, and my favorite thing about him is not that he just is, all into mental toughness, which is obviously a subject that I love.

But he also practices what he preach. He pushes him himself each and every single day. He does some crazy events, and we're gonna talk about all of those things. So without any further ado, here is Dr. Rob Bell on. I can't wait to be patient. All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Garage Gym Athlete Podcast.

I'm sitting here with Dr. Rob Bell. Dr. Bell, welcome to the podcast. Welcome to, thanks for having me, coach. Yeah, I'm glad to hear. Yeah. So Dr. Bell and I go way back. I feel like our first phone conversation I had reached out to Dr. Bell, I'd seen some of his work. I feel like I talked to you for the very first time.

Had to have been like 2000. 14 or 15, latest 16. Sure. And we've communicated you've been on the Better Humanology podcast, and I've always kept [00:02:00] up with you on things that you're doing and books that you're writing. And you're on book number eight, is that right? Yep.

This was eight. Book number eight. It's incredible. And so I, I would love to jump into more of this. I actually have a lot of, I have a question, a couple questions not only about the book, but about your writing process too. Cuz to knock out eight books is just phenomenal. But if you don't mind just giving anyone who's listening a quick background synopsis of who you are and what you do, that'd be really

Dr. Rob: helpful.

Yeah, man. Sports psychology coach. So work with athletes, coaches and teams, executives on on mental toughness, man. So performing our best when it matters the most, and then how we deal, handle and cope with the adversity, setbacks, and struggle in life. What one of beliefs, and I think it's the same with you man, but it's everyone's an athlete.

Our office is just different, and it's so working with executives or it's gonna be pro athletes or collegiate athletes. Mentality's exactly the same, right? It's just the arena kind of [00:03:00] changes. So I've been blessed, man to really do that. And to be like totally transparent.

It's my purpose and it's what really gives me joy, like in life, like, When the book got done I'm an addict mentality, right? I wish I could say I wasn't, but it's like I need to channel that stuff. There's always a come down effect. So after the books gets done and it gets published, wow.

Congratulations man. It's great. And then the, we come back off that mountain, right? Feeling really great, come back off the mountain and it was just struggling, man for a week and a half, just out of routine. And what really brought me joy was being able to coach others.

And it is really, it's what snapped me back in it. So it's like the importance of that when I'm struggling, I can go to one of your videos and watch that and be like, yeah, it's exactly it man. It's, we're getting from point A to point B. It's gonna be tough, but this too shall pass. And it really just reinforced man about how much I love coaching.

I'm sure you feel the same way, man, but it's like when you coach other people, [00:04:00] we're coaching ourselves at the same time. And I think that's the real gift. Yeah.

Jerred: Yeah. And I think I can definitely feel the exact same thing because sometimes just running a business in general, like sometimes it, we didn't, I didn't start any of this to.

Be the best business owner possible. And so sometimes when I go too far down that path and I get too into the weeds with business, I start to lose sight of what am I passionate about? What am I doing? Because the business side, to be honest, is boring, but I like more of what you're talking about.

Like coaching people, talking to people, helping them push themselves. That's, that once I get back into that, I really get fired up again. And even being able to talk about it right. Gets me fired up. So I did just recently finish your book. I can't wait to be patient and the fastest way to get there.

And I told you before before we recorded the podcast, it was really convicting and luckily I caught some nuances in there that I think you and I are more similar than we are different. When the type of people that we are and maybe not being the most patient human beings on the planet.

[00:05:00] But what was the big reason behind you wanting to write this book? That it, you're, because you're like, hey, This needs to be written. I think it's, I it's an idea you had at some point, but you really felt like it needed to get out there and hit the world. So like why do you feel like we need this book today?

Dr. Rob: Yeah, man, it's a great question. Cuz I still toil around with it, and it was the most difficult book I had to write, for several reasons, which we can talk about. But this is what I've seen is that I. We're in the hustle culture, and I work with dogs, so I work with people that get stuff done, successful business owners, people that are trying to win major championships.

And so I do not work with people getting ready to get ready. That's not why I'm not the guy. You know what I mean? Like you gotta go someplace else to get if you need motivation sort of thing. That is not me. I do not work with [00:06:00] motivation and not saying that there's not parts of it, but you tweak it. But if it's working with race horses, working with dogs, what I've seen is okay, what part are they missing? And the part that misses is that, This too shall pass. Meaning they're so driven towards that mountaintop, towards reaching that mountaintop. And once they get there, they gotta come back down and it's the coming back down.

That becomes a huge struggle for them. And that's what I've seen. And it was like what? What's the skill that's lacking on that? You know what I mean? Because people will tout it up. This is life-changing event, right? You sold your business for 20 million. It's fantastic. But they come back down off that.

And so the part that I saw in terms of like patience was really working with our most precious resource. And that's time without a doubt's our most precious [00:07:00] resource, cuz it's non-renewable and it's the same for everybody. And so what I think is that we have just gotten away from a positive relationship with time.

Once we know how fast it goes and how quick it is. We're not at we don't waste it as much and we hold every moment really as sacred. Even the bad times, and that's where I thought patients really came into play, is that these individuals that were so driven, so successful that there needed to be an off switch.

There wasn't an off switch. It was never an off switch. They became urgent, which we need, right? We need to be urgent towards that, which is important. But the part that I saw was we're urgent towards everything. And that does not work because once that faucet is on, there has to be an off switch.

There has to be that, which this really does not matter. So I'm not going to approach this with a sense of urgency. And that's the part that I saw. What's the, to that? And the counter to that is is patience, man, and being [00:08:00] patient with ourselves. Being patient with others, being patient with the results, but being patient with Just overall the process in terms of what we're doing.

And I didn't write the book saying, Hey, I'm so patient. Look at me. It's, I can't wait to be patient. I suck at patients. How, what are all the skills that go into this and how does this tie into the mental game? And that's where I'm really looking at it in terms of recovery. I don't think. There's not too many people that overtrain, I just think we under recover.

And you tell me if I'm wrong on that one, you know what I'm saying? But what I see is recovery piece is so important. Patience is recovery of the mind, and that's the part that becomes so crucial to overall happiness, joy and even success and significance in life.

Jerred: And a big part of what I'm hearing is you're talking about the process, right?

Like being able to enjoy the process, be patient with the process and perhaps if you're looking to achieve something, [00:09:00] even patience in what comes after a great achievement. And so how do we learn to enjoy the process a little bit more? I think we've all heard that, but it's something that's very challenging.

When you are after something or you have a goal, like how do we learn to enjoy the process a little bit more?

Dr. Rob: Yeah, absolutely. And that's a great question. And so it's we gotta look at like time and knowing. See, the part that hit me in, even in writing the book was we've all heard that this too shall pass.

But we always say it. Like it is what it is. You know what I mean? No one ever says it is what it is when something's good. You know what I mean? It is what it is. Means something's bad has happened. I've abdicated responsibility. Hey, it is what it is, which I hate that, that verse, so we're saying this too shall pass as a negative thing. And it's true, right? The difficulty that you're going through right now, this too shall pass. Why is that true? It's only true and it's only a fact because. The good times [00:10:00] can't last. So because that birthday party or that wedding celebration or the graduation or the sale or the championship, because that feeling does not last.

That alone is proof that the bad times don't last either. So not like some saying, but that is proof because the good times can't last. It also means the bad times can't last either. And then what we look back On. How do we enjoy that process? See, we're designed to get from point A to point B as fast as possible, no question.

And not that there's anything wrong with it, but we've romanticized speed so much that if you look at anything that's gonna be salesy, they're gonna put a time component to it, right? Which one would you buy? Hey, how to become a well-rounded fit athlete in under 12 months, or how to become, Cut up shredded athlete in 30 days or less.

You know what I mean? So that appeal of [00:11:00] time. The way that I think that we enjoy that process, man, is to focus on the room's, the rhythm of life, what we're doing, incorporating into every our life and our fabric. Because if we have to shut it on and shut off, and if we're urgent towards everything, then it's really tough to enjoy that process.

You know what I mean? It's like, All we're doing is we're striving for that dopamine hit for that hit, but that's gonna wear off and it's gonna leave us empty and it's not fulfilled well. What is it that's really leaving us fulfilled? And then it's just getting back to, am I doing the things on a daily basis, on a weekly basis?

Am I at least doing these activities that give me energy, that give me purpose, that can fire me up, and not saying it's gonna be the entire business. Am I at least doing that on like a daily basis? So that's the part I look at, Hey, if I'm doing something I enjoy within the process, man, it takes care of itself.

So I just look at, hey, rhythm is more important than speed, and that's one of the ways that we [00:12:00] get focused on the process.

Jerred: Yeah, I think that rhythm, I think I came to this realization without having the words for it, like that you've put in the book, but. I was obsessed with self-development self-improvement, just reading the books, listening to the podcast, all those kind of things.

Exercise. But then I finally stopped one day after having done it for a couple years, and I was what's the what's the goal? Where are we? Like, where are we going? Like how much better can you get? And then I realized like, There's not necessarily an end goal, it's just here are the habits that you need to have, like you always need to be improving yourself through reading challenging material through exercise, through eating right, through drinking enough water, getting enough sleep, like these are just things that you have to do, but there's not necessarily anywhere you're going.

And I think that. Was actually good for me when I finally realized like, Hey you're not really going anywhere. This is just, these are the habits you've decided to have in life to try and be the best person [00:13:00] possible, but there's no real end game here. And that kind of took some of the stress, because I felt like when I first started, like I was rushing to nothing.

I was like, I wanted to read a book every single week and do the hardest workouts and all this stuff. And like those things are good, but it's Is this sustainable? And then what are we even chasing? So I think I really resonate with with what you've said.

And another thing in your book

Dr. Rob: and it, go ahead. Oh, sorry, Jared. It's such a yang and yang. There's such a give and take when it comes to that, and that's the part why it was so difficult to write. But yeah, man, go ahead. Because I love when you start talking, get flowing, man.

Oh

Jerred: no, I just another part of your book that was I think probably described my wife and I, you talk about JS and ps and I think that I'm like the definition of a J and she's probably the definition of a p of, and so I would love for you to explain that to the audience a little bit more.

Because I, seriously, when I was reading that, I was like that was the most convicting. A couple pages for me, I was like, oh my [00:14:00] gosh, like I'm a J to a T. Like I, I really feel like I'm patient Yeah. In big things. Like I, I think I can be patient like in an investment or in business. So if you asked me if I had patience, I'd be like, yeah, I'm a patient person, but after reading the book, I'm like, no, I'm.

I'm definitely this Jay who's you try and throw something into my schedule and like I'm miserable human being for an hour or two. Go ahead and talk about those two different types of people a little bit. Yeah. Like maybe some tactics in working with each.

Dr. Rob: Yeah, for sure. Man. It's a great point, man.

It's in any listeners, man, they can go to like the website. Like we got patient's personality quiz, like they can get on there and it's it's just can't dot com and they can take the person patient personality quiz. And I, it's really difficult because, man, we're the same way.

I'm a J my wife's a p so it's like, How do you wanna spend your day off? That's how we're just gonna look at how do you wanna spend your day off? For me, a day off is very comfortable if I know what's coming up, right? All right, man. 6:00 AM workout. It's gonna be great. And then we're gonna be [00:15:00] hanging here by all means, like I know what the plan is.

If there's no plan on the day off, like I still struggle with it. And the reason why is because my mind as a J is structured, it's planned. I need to know what's coming up, that's how I, that's how I make sense of the outdoor world, and when I'm saying J or D, it's really just getting back to probably the most popular psychological test that was out there.

Personality test in the Myers-Briggs, and we're just looking at the last letter. The last letter is a J or a p. Everything else really doesn't matter, and I. Being a j I need to have things structured as a p PS don't like to have any structure, man. It's what are you, what are we gonna be doing the day off?

You can't put 'em in the box because they're more free spirited. You know what I mean? It's Hey, whatever the wind's gonna blow is where we're gonna go. And they get freedom in that. That does not work for me right now. It doesn't mean that I can't have fun. Like I can have fun. I just need to know what's the environment?

And Hey, we're spending all afternoon here. [00:16:00] Great man. Means it's fine. So what happens in daily life is with J'S and P'S is Jay's need space to process any kind of change in their environment and what's happened. So wife comes, Hey honey, do you want to go to lunch? Now I didn't know that was part of the plan.

So automatically, whether it's a great idea or not has nothing to do with it. It has to do with I need time to process the information. Now what happens is, and my daughter's a Jay as well, I hit her with the information. Hey honey, do you wanna go to lunch? Automatically she's gonna start to complain. And the reason why she starts to complain or moan is because we've messed with the schedule.

You've messed with the plan, right? This wasn't part of the plan. I didn't know it was there. Not saying it's not a good idea, but what happens is they start to complain, and now you are in that space of them complaining. Now we're not talking about [00:17:00] lunch anymore, we're talking about. What do you mean?

Like we're gonna be back way before four o'clock, you're gonna have plenty of time to get ready for that. Now we're going back and forth, and now we're fighting because the space wasn't created in terms of allowing somebody to process it. So the way that we deal with Js, the way that we deal with myself, is you gotta hit 'em with the information and run.

If you hit 'em with the information and stay there, you're gonna be sucked into this vortex of hearing the J complain. So what you gotta do, and this is what I try coaching my life up. And God bless her. But it still does the same thing. So when she tells me, she's I'm gonna hit you with information and run.

Sometimes she'll hit me and then just stay there. Wait for my reaction. I'm like, no, you just have to leave. So you hit him and run. You hit him with the information and then just leave. Come back, be like, Hey, I'll come back in three minutes and then I'll check in with you. Hey, do you wanna go for lunch?

I'll be back in a couple minutes and check in. Now what happened is the Jay's still gonna complain, but nobody's in there to be [00:18:00] infected by that. Awful. Processing that kind of happens in the mentality. That's how we deal with Jay's and it's remarkable how well it works. When we put it into play, man, we gotta hit 'em and run.

Jerred: Yeah. Cuz we're not bad people. We just need a minute. We just need to like, work it in into our plan. It's so funny because I think that, that's so true. And. My wife and I have been married 13, 13 years this year, and it probably took me 10 years to figure out, again, unknowingly the whole j and p thing.

But like I have to, if we have a day where we're doing nothing, let's just say vacation. We actually have a vacation coming up this summer. I already know since there's really nothing on the calendar for vacations with us. Like we're just, we go and we're there like we'll figure the rest out. I have to wake up, I still have to wake up early and do a workout.

It just gives me like that little bit of control Yeah. For the day. Like I know that there's a plan because if I say oh, I'll work out tomorrow. It's just not gonna [00:19:00] work. And then she would prefer to have like a. A very different morning than I would, and that's fine. We don't have to be the same person, but I'm like, no, I'm just, you enjoy your coffee.

Like I'll be there like before you're probably finishing it and I'll have some coffee with you, but I just have to get up and work out. Just those small choices right there where I at least feel like I'm in control of my day. When on vacation, I'm in a peas world and this is like just, we're gonna do whatever we feel like that day.

It gives me a little bit of sanity. And I do think we have not tried the hit and run tactic, but that's something I'm going to talk to my wife about and Hey, This might be something we want to try and see. You also said in your book that text messages work really well for Jay's like just like dropping, drop a bomb on 'em via text.

That way they can do their own internal process without you having to be around.

Dr. Rob: Yeah. I'm not a Yeah, cuz if you start complaining and over text, it's kinda weird. I'm complaining, does somebody over text? Okay, whatever. And I do not I'm not a big fan of text messaging and [00:20:00] expect it cannot be anything important.

If it's anything important or has emotion to it, do not do it over text. Absolutely not. Like it has to be just something very simple. Then text can really be a great advantage to this.

Jerred: That's awesome. Let's get into some of your personal journeys here. Tell me about your ultra marathon that you finished recently.

Dr. Rob: Man, like the a hundred miler? Yeah.

Jerred: How was that or, yeah, I,

Dr. Rob: because I do 'em, I'll do 'em every few months. Really, man, the a hundred miler. It was I refer to it now. In terms of it was a hinge moment because whenever I'm going through a struggle now I've got an anchor point of buddy, this too shall pass, man.

You're just at mile 45, yeah. You just gotta keep moving. And that really is with life, man. But like, when you hear these things and it, you don't have an anchor point, it makes a little bit tougher. You know what I mean? But it's look, every workout ends every tough time. We're gonna go through ends.

Every good time we're gonna go through ends. [00:21:00] And so that's like a life lesson. I think man comes from that one. And the toughest part of the race, man, it was just It was really when I was finishing my, I puked at my 45. But I was hydrated, but I just really struggled with the heat.

And and there's a I had a videographer there, man, cause I wanted him to record that stuff and didn't get the puke, but got the, I'm sitting at, I've gotta go back out. It's a loop. You got four loops, 4 25 mile loops. And the rough part, man, is, I'm about a mile there from. Mile 50, and it was the finish for some people, like some people are doing the 50 miler, and so if you can picture this, it's eight o'clock at night.

They're coming in, they're talking about the cold beer that's getting ready to have, and that hamburger, and then it hits you. It's dude, you're not even half well away. You know what I mean? So it's yeah, those sort of moments and then not feeling the best I had it and it was, this was a 10 minute rest stop, [00:22:00] and it turned to be about 30 minutes.

The clock is running, I'm looking at the clock, and you never know how fast 30 minutes is when you're just staring at the clock thinking you gotta get up and go. And it wasn't like, there wasn't any idea that I wasn't gonna get up and go, but it's like I just don't know if I'm gonna throw up.

You know what I mean? So it's like everything takes a back seat to the stomach when it's dictating. How fast you can eat, how fast you can drink, and you don't really don't want to eat anything. So it's that part was, revealing in terms of like when you meet yourself there in this and that's the part that I love about your coach and man is know, meeting yourself.

You meet yourself. I don't always like who I meet. But even with that man it's always getting back to a lot of times what was the preparation for that race? You know what I mean? How was the preparation? Cuz that's what holds the real meaning to it, and then there are little moments throughout the race of meeting people that they're not doing well in the race and you try talking to 'em, but they drop.

What was [00:23:00] going on there? The, these sort of moments kind of stick with me, like when looking at those kind of races and why would, why'd they drop? Like why did they already have it made up in their mind that they were done? My mentality for that race very simple, right? I'm gonna die or I'm gonna finish this race.

That's it, man. You leave yourself, no other option. You will get it done. It's as simple as that. I'm not saying that's easy, I'm not saying that works for everybody, but look man, if I give myself an out, I'm gonna take it. That's why I don't give myself a outs like there is no other out.

That's why the best runs are out and backs, right? All you gotta do is make it out. If it's a circle. And now you can play this mental game with yourself on, man. Am I, maybe I cut it short a little bit. Like I'm gonna cut it short because that's how that mind works man. And mine always wants that out, so it's it's.

That was the mentality heading in the race and that's why it was successful is and it works with anything in life, man. It's gonna be business. There is no plan B, it's only in plan A. And when you have no out, when you have another option, [00:24:00] then you can really see what you'll accomplish in life.

Yeah.

Jerred: I think that's the mentality for a race that size. Like I just feel like that's the mentality you have to have, especially with it being. Exactly like you said, like loops with people having beer, beers and burgers at yet your halfway point, like how hard that would be if you didn't have that mentality.

Just be like, cuz in what world is 50 miles not a good run. You know what I mean? Sure. If you finish 50, you're like, Hey, that was pretty good dude. I could still be proud of myself, but that's not what we came here to do. That's right. And so I think that takes a, you have to go into that mentality or be very easy.

To quit. And so you're doing these races, would you say you, you meet yourself every time you do one of these races, or is it only particular races in under certain circumstances?

Dr. Rob: No, I think you meet yourself in one way or another in those races, but you meet yourself in the training as well, man.

And it's the training part of meeting yourself that you have to be prepared on who is that person, right? Who is the real core? And it's only when [00:25:00] like you're naked in front of the gods with doing hard things. As talk about and teach, do we see what's underneath it all, man. Don't always like who I meet, yeah. I don't always like that person that wants to slow it down here and, just, I don't always like that person. But that person is there and it's not about fighting it, it's just about recognizing, okay, who is it that's talking to me right now? What does that person want? What's that need?

Does it really wanna slow down because hey, there's intestinal issues or does it wanna slow down cuz they just don't wanna push it, you know what I mean? And it's just really, it's figuring out, hey, who's that person that you're gonna meet? We don't meet that person on a daily basis, so cuz we can crowd ourselves out with noise, with being busy that.

We don't always have to meet it, or that person's voice is shaded a little bit in terms of just being busy or not wanting to do something. So it's only like doing those things, man. Do we [00:26:00] really meet ourselves?

Jerred: Yeah. And I think the mentality that has to be taken there you and for everyone else who's working out and trying to meet themselves like.

When your brain or your mind suggests that something suggests, Hey, let's quit, or let's slow down, or we don't need to do this. Let's take the shortcut, like whatever. I think everyone needs to know that those are okay thoughts. They're normal thoughts, like everyone's gonna have those. You can call it mental weakness, but it's not who you are.

And I think that's one of the biggest things that I've learned and frequently trying to meet myself is I'm not embarrassed that there's a version of me. That wants to quit on a six mile run. That's not a super challenging thing for especially someone like you. Going on a six mile run is not a big deal.

But I might find that in mile five. I'm like, yeah, you know what, five is good enough. I don't wanna do six. Then that's also when I get like fired up. Like I, I love to find that version of me and it's always at different points and for different reasons. You might have other things going on [00:27:00] in your life, but I light up when that comes because I'm like, oh, great, here's an opportunity.

Like you have an opportunity now. To talk to this version of yourself, but it's not who you are. It's just a thought. It's just, we have all sorts of crazy thoughts all day. It doesn't mean every single thought that you have is who you are. It's just a great way to, to practice, talking to yourself in a different way.

And I, and yeah,

Dr. Rob: and that's it, man. We get the test first, and then we get the lesson afterwards, not every test. We're not gonna pass, man and school doesn't work that way. You don't show up and be like, Hey, here's the final exam and then I'm gonna teach you everything you need to know.

Life and sports and doing activities like that. Tough stuff. You get the test and then the lesson comes afterwards. And why does that happen when it comes to the mind? The mind just has one job, right? That's to stay safe. Mine doesn't want you sprinting here. Mine, right? Click it up a knob.

Because that's uncomfortable. That's not safe. So mine doesn't want you to get up and go, mine wants you, man. Why don't we just stay here? And you know what? You don't need to do that run tonight. Just do it tomorrow. [00:28:00] That is meeting yourself. And then it's that's just the mind, just trying to keep you safe.

That's all it is. And then how we respond to that voice, that version of ourselves, then that becomes we do that enough, then that becomes our response to that becomes who you are. I

Jerred: love it. What's your training look like right now? Dr. Bell?

Dr. Rob: Man, I feel I've just gotten in these ruts.

I'm like, I'm wanting to change up things. Because what I'll do with my training man, is I'll do like a boot camp now, probably like once a week. But every other morning I'm just waking up and I'm running six miles like with my chocolate lab and I'll come in and do some stretching, some core and then calling it, so for me like that becomes a bit of a rut on the weekends.

And I just finished the ultra like last month. But I'm at that point where it's like let's just start switching it up a little bit. And that's the part about being an athlete. Like I like switching it up, whether it's, Hey, let's just do some training in the pool. Now let's get on the row machine, doing that, but [00:29:00] it only works for me. I like switching that up. What really works is like just, I have to have that goal that's gonna be out there, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. If I have that goal that's gonna be out there then the train and picks up naturally. And that's why I think the toughest thing, the way you win a race is sign up like, oh man, yeah.

I'm thinking about signing up for that race. No. Sign up now. And then I. You start training for it. You don't start training for it and then decide to sign up later because it just doesn't work. You know what I mean? You gotta sign up and then the training fits nicely with that. I get to be a part of Western states that's coming up.

So I'm pacing a friend that's gonna be there and blessed to be able to do that, man. Cause that's a sacred race.

Jerred: Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah, I think I haven't done an event, I did one with my brother last year, but that was a super short one. I haven't done an event in two years cause I hurt my back and so I just wouldn't actually allow myself to sign up for anything cuz I knew that, all or nothing mentality that you're saying you [00:30:00] have to take into the, into a race.

The same mentality I take into a race and. If my back was just killing me, I would still be like, I have to finish the race. And I didn't wanna, I didn't wanna put myself in that kind of situation. But at the same time, the last two years of training have been very difficult for me mentally. Like I get it done, but I always like to have something on the calendar too.

Something that's going. So that's why I'm signing up for a lot of things towards the end of this year and 2024. Just really looking forward to getting back into some of those environments and Getting back at meeting myself in some bigger events. Yeah, man.

All right, man. Let's go to the quickfire questions. You've answered these, but it's been a long time. Let's see how things have changed. What is the hardest workout you have ever done?

Dr. Rob: And when you ask that, man, I remember the first time it did the hardest work workout that I did do was 100.

100 hundreds and that was like a New Year's Day. So doing, and this was in the pool and I remember that got tough, man, [00:31:00] yeah. On a, on an interval. Probably the toughest workout did, man, was probably a hundred mile trail run, that's training. So yeah, that was tough one man.

Yeah

Jerred: that's really hard workout. In your opinion, what's the best activity for building mental toughness?

Dr. Rob: It was like, yeah, it was like 23,000 calories too, man, I think through that. Wow.

Jerred: That's pretty good. That's insane. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Your

Dr. Rob: wearable extracting that, that's the thing about the wearables.

Yeah, exactly. Man, that's crazy. Yeah. Mean what are the best activities for building mental toughness? So it's like mental toughness. There's a lot of variations to it, right? Like you can be really mentally tough and disciplined, like you and I both share that, right? Like the discipline part's really not that.

It's not that hard. Not saying it's not hard, but it's not that hard. But then you've got like, all right, let's talk about mental toughness and belief in yourself. Mine comes and it goes, what about focus, your ability to stay focused on this task right here and now? Not okay, your ability to let go of [00:32:00] mistakes.

How's the mental toughness when it come back? Mine awful. You know what I mean? I'll wear that mistake for a day. So it's really looking at. Alright. What part of mental toughness are we kinda looking at? And then I'm just totally agreeing with you, man. It's any time that you're gonna be competing against the most difficult opponent, and that is against yourself, that is when the voice, whatever it is, starts talking to you.

It might be after the event. So for me, man, a lot of times it's after the event and what did I learn about the situation? What did I, what would I do different? Hey, what did you do well, right? Can you hold onto the successes? So I just thinking, man, it's gonna be any type of activity that's putting you in an uncomfortable situation that gets you talking to yourself and where you meet yourself.

That can be a variety of things. On, what are the toughest ones? Geez man, the toughest ones for me. I mean talking, in a stressful [00:33:00] situation than with my 14 year old daughter. You know what I mean? When something's really emotional and maybe I haven't handled it the right way I'd rather go for a run, you know what I'm saying?

I'd rather do that, man. So it's like life doesn't get easier, man. It's just like what are the skills and what are the tools you're trying to implement these things? And so yeah, that's what I look at Amanda. Hey, what? And again, we just have to realize that we're always getting the test first and the lesson comes afterwards.

I think if we take that approach, hey, we're in more of a learning mentality, more scientist mentality, then I need to ace this test. Yeah,

Jerred: I think breaking mental toughness down into multiple facets like that is, is awesome because we tend to like gravitate towards where we. Are more comfortable, even if our comfort is in, like you're saying, discipline and doing hard, things like that might not actually be in embracing discomfort by doing those things.

It's just more of who we are. But yeah, if [00:34:00] we make a mistake, being able to quickly adjust and React to that in a different way. That can be very, a very difficult thing to do. And knowing where you are, where you're comfortable, even inside of mental toughness. I think that's awesome.

Yeah. All right. If you could only have one piece of equipment to train with for the rest of your life, what would it be?

Dr. Rob: I'd probably say an ax. An

Jerred: ax? That's awesome.

Dr. Rob: Yeah. And I, it just just came to me, man. Cause, I've used. I love hard work. Like I love, and if it was chopping wood, man, then it would be Yeah.

Chopping that tree and then chopping that down. I'd love to do that. That would be a great workout.

Jerred: Yeah. Chop one tree down per day just and make and turn it into firewood. That would be right. Incredible. Yeah. That's awesome. All right, Dr. Bell, it's been awesome having you back on the podcast.

Where can people learn more about your work, your books everything that you're doing? Yeah,

Dr. Rob: man. I appreciate it. And again the website [00:35:00] book or the book website, it's can't wait book.com. They can take the patient's personality quiz there, infographics they can download, obviously they can order the book.

And then my website, it's just dr rob bell.com. D r o b e l l.com.

Jerred: Awesome. Awesome. And I will make sure that we have all those links in the show notes. If anyone is looking to grab his book, I absolutely recommend that you do. You can go to any of the links that he just mentioned or you can go to our show notes and we'll have the links there as well.

Dr. Bell, thank you so much for your time

today.

Dr. Rob: Thanks so much, man. Love it. Love being on the show with you. To the Garage Gym

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