The RIGHT Way To Do Fitness With Kids, and AI Tech In Fitness

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IN THIS 50-MINUTE EPISODE WE DISCUSS:

• Jerred and Joe continue the discussion from last week
• They talk about the right way to do fitness with kids
• They then dive into where the industry is going with respect to AI
• And A LOT MORE!!

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Podcast Transcript

Jerred: [00:00:00] This is the Garage Gym Athlete Podcast, and we're here to build autonomous athletes and put phenomenal programming into every garage, basement, and spare bedroom out there. I'm Jerred Moon, and I'm with Joe Courtney. We are strength and conditioning coaches who have turned over 20, 000 people into garage gym athletes over the last decade.

And we're here to reduce the information overload that exists in the health and fitness industry today. We're going to do that by covering relevant science and give actionable takeaways. Not only from the data, but from our years of experience. So let's dive in.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Garage Gym Athlete podcast. Jared Moon here with Joe Courtney. What's up, Joe? How you doing, man? I'm doing great. How's training?

Joe: Uh, pretty good. Had a pretty solid, solid week. Um, pretty run down today, man. [00:01:00] I did, so I wasn't expecting this, but Monday I did, um, the kettlebell swing tests and I haven't done kettlebells in a while, like swings, at least not that many, and I'm still sore from it.

Like it kind of wrecked me. And I even looked into my history and I did significantly less than what I've done, like in the, in the past years, it's like 30 less than my top score ever. Um, but yeah, I'm like, My glutes were really sore for like two days after my biceps are even a little sore. Um, but it's like a good sore.

Jerred: Explain the, the kettlebell swing test for anybody who doesn't know what that

Joe: is. Yeah. So something, I don't know if you got it from somewhere else or if you just programmed it on your own. Um, it is three minutes of max kettlebell swings, one minute of rest, and then five minutes of max kettlebell swings.

So total of nine minutes of max kettlebell swings was just a one minute break in there.

Jerred: Yeah. Brutal. Sounds like something I just came up with, to be honest. [00:02:00] Yeah, yeah, that's, uh, you throw in something you haven't done in a while and, uh, it gets brutal. Before we jump in further, I forgot to update everybody.

Um, so today we're finishing our conversation. Uh, we kind of talked about fitness trends, what we've seen over the past, and now we're kind of talking more about the future today. Or that's what we're going to be talking about kind of our kids Um fitness garage gyms our thoughts on kind of that Um different stages of parenting here between joe and I as well.

I'd love to get Joe's thoughts. It's not something we've discussed a ton behind the scenes. Then we're going to get into a little bit of what we think AI tech wearables, all that kind of stuff where that's headed, you know, here in the next couple of years or so, um, I think we, we briefly touched on some of those things in previous podcasts, but I want to dive into it deeper, but, uh, before we do that, I do have one update.

Um, training wise, [00:03:00] I got a new piece of equipment and I mentioned I wanted to get it and I got it and just so everybody knows, we don't do like paid shout outs or like sponsored posts or anything like that. Um, so if I'm mentioning a piece of equipment, it's really just because I'm utilizing the equipment and felt like talking about it, like Garmin, Garmin gets so much free exposure here.

Yeah. Um, but I purchased the freak athlete. whatever it's called the eight, eight and one machine. It's like a Nordic. I don't know what they actually call it in Nordic, whatever it does all sorts of crap. Um, it can do Nordic hamstring curls. It can do GHG sit ups, 90 degree back extensions, decline sit ups.

Uh, it's got a spot for like Bulgarian split squats, hip thrusts. Like it, it just does a lot of things. I call it like the, the transformer. That's how I've been Like explaining it to other people. Uh, so anyway, and if you're anything, if you're like me in like the, the [00:04:00] same demographic, if you will, garage, gym, athlete, whatever, I get slammed by their ads constantly on Instagram.

Um, I don't know if that's just me, but. Uh, just listening to this, you're

Joe: going to

Jerred: see

Joe: an ad now, probably.

Jerred: Yeah. You'll see, cause they advertise quite heavily, but I want to get my thoughts on. I've only about a week into it. So all I can really talk about is like, Hey, here's my plan. Here's how I plan to use it.

And then also my thought, initial thoughts on the piece of equipment. Uh, initial thoughts are it's awesome. And here's why it's because it can do all those different things that it said. Um, and it's incredibly sturdy and seems to be very well built. Like, we'll see if it's going to be my first question, but yeah, I thought it was going to be like rickety.

I was like, I thought I was going to regret my purchase in all honesty. I thought I was going to like, cause I really want to be able to do ghg setups. Like I almost bought a ghg, like a proper ghg from rogue. And the only thing that stopped me was this machine. I was like, well, it says more than just a ghg.

Cause I have a reverse hyper. And [00:05:00] it's like, it's a love hate relationship with that reverse hyper, because it does one thing and takes up a ton of space. And that's how I was like, I really want to GHD sit up like a GHD primarily for GHD sit ups. And I was like, Should I buy this thing? So anyway, I didn't buy the one from rogue.

I bought this thing from freak athlete and it does have like places where you could put the plates to make it, you know, sturdy, I guess. So I've done that every time, but it is very, very sturdy and does all the things that it says it does pretty well, except for reverse hyper, it doesn't do a reverse hyper and all I knew that before I bought it, um, a big, and people don't understand a big part of a reverse hyper is your legs actually swinging underneath the apparatus.

Like, it's not just like the fact that you can lift your legs back. Like it's the, cause Louie Simmons, if you watch videos, he's the one who invented it, Louie Simmons, uh, you know, very famous in the powerlifting world. Came [00:06:00] up, uh, with the conjugate method training method for powerlifters and everything, but anyway, he talks about the spinal stretch you get underneath, like by your legs coming underneath and you don't get that at all with this GHD.

They're, they like, It'd be like a partial, you're supposed to use a band and then it's partial range of motion. Like it's just, I think that they should eliminate that. They shouldn't even say that it does. Does that thing? Uh, because it's just a huge, a huge whiff on the, on the reverse hyper thing. But other than that, it does all, all the other things quite well.

Um, do you have any questions about the machine?

Joe: Uh, I guess I've only used it with GHD. Have you tried anything else? No.

Jerred: Yeah. So I've, I've tried almost everything it does because, um, I've had, I had two people who own one of these two, two friends, if you will. Marco's one of them. We talked about that. Marco has it.

And then I have another buddy who just owns it and. I talked to Marco about it. Marco's like, I use this thing damn near every [00:07:00] day for something. And then I talked to my other friend and he's like, he's like, I don't know. You have to like. Adjust it all like to get it to the right spot. There's got to move a bunch of knobs.

He's like, I just I never use it now. He's like, it just sits like in the corner of my gym. And I was like, kind of like taking into both accounts. I'm like, well, I probably more like Marco than this, like, I'll use something if I buy it, right. And so I thought it'd be hard, but I spent the whatever the five to 10 minutes after I built it to make sure I knew how to get it into all these positions.

Because if I had to like rewatch a video every time, To like adjust it to GHD and then adjust it to, you know, Nordic hamstring curls and all this stuff. I'd be like, I'm not using this thing. Uh, but I, I don't, I, like I said, I spent the five to 10 minutes. After the fact, watch their video that they had on like the different uh, adjustments and now it's just kind of ingrained in my head how to use it.

So it's, it's pretty easy to use. Uh, so definitely more on the Marco train with like utilizing a lot, but [00:08:00] what I use it for my, my like routine right now is I'm, I'm running again. I mentioned that. And I I'll talk about why I'm running again. Um, but after I run, I hate just running. I really do. Like I, I hate.

I hate just a single modality. And so I want to do something after. And so I've been either doing like a short circuit after my runs, I'm talking like a quick 10 minute, something, or. Now what I'm doing is I'm using this machine and I'm doing GHD setups, 90 degree back extensions and Nordic hamstrings curls after every single run.

So three, three times a week, um, doing those things just to utilize the whole body a little bit more work on my posterior chain, abdominal strength, all that kind of stuff. The main reasons I wanted it. So anyway, that's how I'm using it. I'm not utilizing it in my programming necessarily, like the garage and athlete programming that I'm following, but I'm utilizing it.

On top of the runs,

Joe: it's definitely a nice to have accessory thing because like you can, you can even do Bulgarian split squats [00:09:00] on a lot of stuff, but to have your foot on things, something that pivots and rotates. It's just kind of a nice to have because you don't have to get exactly in the right spot.

Jerred: Yeah, it's pretty legit. Um, and I, so I mentioned why, why am I running again? So I'm getting a dog and I know everybody wanted to it.

Joe: I have a real sized dog.

Jerred: Yeah. So if people don't know, I have a dog. My, well, my wife has a dog, whatever does

Joe: not like me at all.

Jerred: It's a Chihuahua. Okay. It's a long hair Chihuahua.

It's eight pounds. It hates everyone except for my family. And, uh, just like the next one. Yeah, just like the previous one. Um, so anyway, I don't consider myself a Chihuahua. Dog guy. I've always wanted a big dog. Uh, so we are getting a big dog in about a week. Uh, we are getting a German short haired pointer.

Um, and if you do any research on these, I started down the road of like, I want a dog I can run with. And that's, that's how like this whole [00:10:00] thing started. I was like, I want a dog I can run with. And so like, it got, I want an athletic dog that can go on long runs with me. And a lot of dogs popped up. I mean, it's not like only one dog can do this, but like the Belgian Malinois, which is like what they use for like police work and stuff that popped up.

They're insanely athletic, but they also are a bit aggressive. Um, And so we ran into all these other, but we ended up talking to some breeders and stuff. And the German short haired pointer seemed to be like the dog for us, like the perfect family dog, slightly psychotic, um, or could be potentially depends on the dog you get, uh, very insanely athletic, um, and can easily run with me, uh, and to be honest, they're saying like, I could probably run three to five miles with it and it would be like, what's next?

Cause that was not enough. So anyway, really looking forward to it. So that's going to be like one of my main responsibilities, running this dog every damn day. So I'm like, I've got a while you can't run the dog when they're young. Uh, but I'm like, might as well [00:11:00] keep up my, my run fitness. If I'm going to be running this dog every day.

So that's, I'm not training for a race. I'm not training for anything. I'm just doing the runs that I want to do. And, uh, Doing that a

Joe: couple

Jerred: of times, keep your

Joe: dog sane.

Jerred: Yeah, that's it. That's the main thing.

Joe: That's awesome. I, yeah, I got to write down this, uh, the breeze as well, because I know when we get back to the States, we're going to be looking for one.

And I'd like to have one that we can get, we, um, take on hikes and just like my, my boy, my son, he's only two, but he's so much energy. And so once he gets a little bit bigger and can actually walk a dog, I think. The whole need to have some sort of exercises as well. So maybe we'll tire this stuff out, but I do like these times of, I'm going to The size and, um, yeah, it's supposed to be short hair.

Yeah, because they're not like

Jerred: giant and then they're really athletic and apparently they're really smart too because I actually want to put some invest in time into like training the dog. Like, yeah, it's like something I've always wanted. Like we, this always happened when I was growing up. Like we'd start talking about getting a dog.

I'm talking about my family. Like when I was lived with my family, you know, Middle [00:12:00] school or whatever. And like, we'd have these conversations about like, what kind of dog we're going to get and all this, all these things. My dad would be like, let's get a German shepherd and like, whatever. And my mom would kind of be a part of the conversations.

And then she would just come home the next day with like some dogs she found at the pound. And now I'm not saying that's a bad thing. Like these dogs need to be rescued too, but it was never like, it was always this like, older dog that you couldn't really do much with. You couldn't train. You can't teach an old dog new tricks.

It was just never the dog that I truly wanted. You know, um, and that's no shade on my parents at all. Like at all. My mom just has like a super big heart. Um, and so we all, that was always the kind of dogs I had growing up. I never had a dog like you got from a puppy and you trained and like, I've never really, really had that.

So that's what I'm looking forward to. It could, the whole thing could backfire. We'll see. You ever trained a dog before, Joe?

Joe: Uh, yeah, a little, a little bit. Um, we only, we've only had one dog, Liz and I, and we got him when he was a year and a [00:13:00] half. So not like, not a puppy, but still pretty young. And we, we definitely taught him a few things, but, um, a lot of behaviors you just kind of can't, like, cause it was also a rescue.

So like behaviors toward other dogs or, or other, or other people, like there's just some things you just can't fix or get out of. So, When we get another one, we'll get definitely get one as a, as a puppy so that we can actually have the social side. But like, as it, as in like tricks and like not doing things, he actually responded really well to that.

Jerred: Awesome. Well, I know everybody came here to learn about dog training and, uh, the freak athlete thing. Anyway, it's a good, good piece of equipment. I'll update everybody more on like how, how things are going with that. But I do, and this would be my last thing on that before we can move on. But the movements you can do on the free Catholic machine.

Are things that are like neglected if you don't have a way to do them. So I'm not saying you need to do the freak athlete thing. Like I think you may have seen that like door jam thing I bought, like where I could do Nordic curls and like [00:14:00] maybe it, it slides underneath the door and then you can close the door and you, if you have a pad, you can kind of do Nordic hamstring curls.

So I've been looking for ways to kind of put these things in my program. But haven't really found an easy way to do it. And so this solved a lot of problems. So, uh, looking to build up from here and see how training these things three times a week after runs goes for a while. And I'll get to try it out in September.

Yeah. All right. Well, let's, uh, let's hop into training. You know, what's our plan for our kids, fitness and, uh, training garages and in the house and all those kind of things. Um, you know, it's, it's interesting. So I have three kids just to update everybody. Um, I have a 12 year old and about to be 10 year old, like real close.

Um, and then a six year old. So the oldest and middle are boys and the youngest is a girl. Um, and Joe, what do you [00:15:00] have? Two year old, two year old son. Yep. So he has one boy, two years old. Um, so we are kind of at different stages here, but I think it'd be You know, good to cover this. But a good book I'm reading right now, uh, it's called the anxious generation, I believe, um, from the same author of the coddling of the American mind.

I do, the author's name is escaping me at the moment, but, um, I'm not all the way through the book, but it does talk about, uh, the need for. Unsupervised, like, uh, free time, play time, roaming outside, those kinds of things, and how there are all these mental health issues with, with kids related to, uh, smartphones and.

You know, I don't like for it to be blamed on the phone. It's more like unsupervised internet time and social media, unrestricted social media use, because there's nothing necessarily [00:16:00] inherently wrong with like text messaging a friend or calling a friend, but like searching whatever the hell you want to on the internet at certain ages and being on social media at inappropriate ages can cause problems.

Um, and I think just reading through that book has really made me think of like, What i'm doing, uh, but I I want to hear from you joe Like I said before we started talking about joe. It's not something joe and I have discussed a lot, but i'd love to hear what your strategy is um for getting your son into fitness because I know I think we could both agree that's important for us Like we want our kids to be fit as they get older Like we don't necessarily need them to be professional athletes or anything But like we want fitness to be a part of their life just because we know how important it is But then like When that's your job and that's your life, it can come from the standpoint of like, you know, kids can be rebellious and not want to do anything that you want to do.

So, I mean, what's your, what's your strategy? I mean, I know it's pretty early for you, but I'm sure you've had, uh, thoughts on these kind of [00:17:00] things. Like, uh, what's your, what you're thinking right now? I mean, I'm hoping he goes D1 at least. At a minimum. Get that college paid for, boy. Give me some of that NIL money.

Joe: Yes. Yeah. Something like that. Give me something. Uh, live vicariously through you. Um, yeah. Yeah, like get him out and playing is definitely been been huge at at two. Like we've always had sort of a plan of of how we wanted to go about things like for a while now, and we kind of have to wait. So we've always wanted to get him into gymnastics first, because I've talked to some other people that have gotten the kids into gymnastics early, and just how how much it helps to teach just like.

Coordination and being a body aware. And I mean, just him playing out and plea being rough and stuff. I've noticed has paid dividends. Um, he was running downhill just last week and he tripped. And as he was tripping, his hands came out in front of him, but he also like tucked and rolled at the same time.

So instead of smashing his face, he actually like had some body control to like twist move and he didn't his face. And he [00:18:00] was just, he's just scared of it. Didn't actually hurt him. So like stuff like that, just playing and getting out and, uh, doing things actively, um, There's a, there's a tumbling thing here that we can get him into for for toddlers, but probably when we get to the states for sure.

Um, gymnastics. And then the first sport that he was ever that I was always gonna get him to would be soccer.

Jerred: Yeah,

Joe: because so you have overall coordination with gymnastics, but you're not doing anything crazy. You're mostly just tumbling and bouncing. Soccer, you're actually running and teaching your feet how to move and run and change directions and have like aerobic fitness, but kids can barely run with, can you use their feet at the same time?

They're still going to be falling and tripping all over the place. So getting feet coordination before we start doing anything with it, with the hands has always been sort of my thought. And then like after soccer, depending on how much he's into it, um, we'll go from there. Probably I'll probably like somewhat of lacrosse, you know, hopefully I can be around my brother and bring my sticks out just like see and do even now we have two soccer balls.[00:19:00]

And I just go in the backyard and I kick it against the wall and he just, he wants me to kick it against the wall. He just watches me and then he started to come out and, and kick it. He mostly just picks it up and runs after me like throwing the ball, but he still, he still started to kick it more, uh, and more and more.

So learning by, by seeing, I realized that I may have to start playing more. Just sports in front, go into a real field and doing things versus pushing him into it. Um, I don't know how you sort of, because like yours have always been really big into sports. Um, and you guys, I know you've always talked about playing soccer with your boys in the backyard, but like, there's, there's that.

And then there's the level to what Graham is at now. So, like, how do they kind of get started?

Jerred: Yeah, I mean, Graham started really early and this is, um, you know, nature versus nurture conversation, but I just think that it's interesting. Um, I'll, I'll speak specifically to Graham for a minute. So Graham, yeah, he's, uh, he's like on a high level soccer team now.

He's really good at soccer. Uh, granted, [00:20:00] he's only about to be 10 years old, but I mean, he does have a lot of skill and I think a lot of it has to do with like, he had some, you know, Just he was born with like the athletic genes. Like that's just like in him, like that part, uh, he was born with, but it's interesting.

Yeah. We always played in the backyard. Um, but one thing that I think helped a lot, and this is something outside of my control, we put him on a soccer team. That was really good. I don't know if I've ever talked about this on the podcast before, but he was on this rec soccer team and you, you would play basically two seasons.

Um, you'd play in the fall and you'd play in the spring. So every year there were two seasons, right? Um, and as opposed to it being soccer season, like, you know, a typical sport would be because it's just kids, whatever. So they, he, he played in the spring and he played in the fall. Um, and then they'd have summer stuff as well, but any, he [00:21:00] played with the same team from when he was from, had just turned four years old, um, up until he was I think seven, um, or eight before he went academy and now select.

But anyway, he didn't lose a game. He did not lose one single game that entire time. Now that speaks to the team and the coaching and everything. It was not just Graham, but we added it up one time. Graham had not lost a game and it was like 123 games. He was like 123, you know, and again, I, the only reason I counted that up is because I started to think more about like, he has this confidence and then this desire and this will, but like, it seemed to be fostered over time from the winning.

Um, and again, that's completely outside my control. You can't control, you can't. I can't replicate that. I can't go. I couldn't do that again. I couldn't find a team that worked for him. So he won that many times and now he's lost. He's lost plenty now, which is good because he's [00:22:00] learned to lose. Like we started to get worried about that too.

We were like, damn, what's going to happen once he loses? Like he's never lost before, like in years, he's, he's like never lost since he started playing a sport. So anyway, we started to worry about that, but he ended up being fine with that and adapting. But again, I'm not sitting here. I wasn't like etching off wins.

Like on my, uh, on my whiteboard, we added up after the fact, just because we knew how many games there were each season, how many seasons he had played. Uh, but I just was like, this is ridiculous. Like, you know, that's, that's a lot of winning, um, for him. And I think that that gained a lot of, a lot of confidence.

So my only point being there is like, yeah, we've, we've fostered a lot of those things. Um, always playing in the backyard with them, always being active with them. You talk about taking them up to a field that. That's something that I mean, to be honest, we still do. Um, I take them up to like a stadium, the stadium field at the high school here.

And, uh, we [00:23:00] would It typically would start with me doing some sort of short workout running on the track and I would just throw them some balls and they could do whatever they wanted on the field because I'm like running a circle around them, watching them, you know, and then, uh, it would end with just anything, anything and everything like, Hey, okay, let's, uh, Let's play football two versus one.

Let's try and kick some field goals. Let's practice that just for fun. Like let's kick some soccer balls. We would just do all these different kinds of things on the field. Um, and we're still doing those things. Like I said, my kids are still young and they're not like, um, older than yours for sure, but like not, not in high school or, you know, all these other things.

So, uh, I, and again, I'm not. I'm not trying to get them to be to get scholarships or do anything. I'm really just trying to foster that athleticism and love for fitness is, is the, my main goal. And I talked about that in one of the podcasts, a solo podcast where I talk about training kids. It's like, that's all I want to do is foster this love of fitness and like pushing yourself and, um, you know, sweating, being okay with those things.

And I think. [00:24:00] I think you, to your point, you have to lead that charge is what I'm, I'm realizing is like, you can't just, you can't tell your kids something you can't. Hey, yeah, fitness is important. Go do fitness. You have to, you have to show, you have to show them like with your behavior and what you do on a daily basis.

Joe: Yeah, that's one way we've been kind of lacking since we've been here is on the weekends. We haven't been working out and getting in front of him to work out. We just, um, we work out during the week and then on the weekends we do our own thing. We might go on walks and, and be active that way, but we don't actually do workouts.

But recently we've started to do that and it'll be like, like I'll make up a 20 minute email to go downstairs and do that. Or we've gone on a couple of runs. With the stroller. I'll push the stroller and Liz will have Liz run in front of the stroller so she, he can see her running. Um, I'd like to do more on the sports side of things because I think that would also impact.

It's just, it's a little harder, you know, now. And 36 joining the over 35 rec leagues, but they don't really have those in Spain. So once again, once we get back to the States, [00:25:00] I might join an older men's league and have him come and watch the games and just see that. So that maybe it would, um, push him to want to do it.

And that kind of makes me want to be, and be better prepared to be a better shape to actually go be, still be able to go play those things, you know, even at my age, so you can see that. And, uh, maybe that's something that he could, you know, remember, think about way, way down the road when, uh, when he's older,

Jerred: Yeah, and yeah, my kids have grown up seeing it, seeing working out in the gym, uh, garage gym, doing stuff outside with me.

And I've talked about it for years. It's like the great experiment, right? Like, see if it all works out. But it wasn't until this year that they were, like, begging me to work out with me. You know, and, uh, and I've been holding them back. Like, no, you can't. You're not ready. We're not doing that yet. Just do sports.

Um, and then this year is finally the year I started training them. And, and it's gone really well. And I think if this is something that we can continue, I think that's something we'll always have. Like some dads [00:26:00] hunt with their kids, some dads fish with their kids, some dads go see baseball games or football games with their kids.

And granted, I've done some of those things, but none of those things are like my main thing. Right. And so my kids will, uh, remember working out with me, I think more than more than anything else. And I hope that's what they get out of it. And so overall, like, just to kind of like wrap that up, I think the strategy is just you have, you have to lead from the front so hard is my opinion of this.

Um, so if you are doing fitness, like in the morning or the evenings or behind closed doors or whatever, just for yourself, um, That's fine. I'm not saying you have to work out or show your kids every single day, but just make it a part of your life somehow, like somehow, like let them see something. Um, that's been, you know, in, in, it should be pretty easy if you're a garage gym athlete working from home, it's like easy for, or working out from home.

Um, it's just easy to, to see, have them see it more often. Um, and like I said, I'm still learning. There's still a lot to learn, [00:27:00] um, as we progress to them getting even more serious into sports and all these kinds of things. Like I said, my, my goal is not for them to, unless they want to be, I don't care about what kind of athletes they turn into, but I just want them to love fitness and,

Joe: and that's all I'm working on right now.

So what made you change your mind on actually starting to train them? Cause they're kind of both going to be middle school or in more competitive sports now or, or what?

Jerred: Yeah, I think, um, I just realized that they could, they could handle it. Um, I, I, I keep them away from weightlifting. I talked about that all the time.

Like I, I don't let them lift weights. Um, I can run them through pretty hard workouts that never involved them having to lift anything. Um, we have done some like straight leg deadlifts with, uh, like five pound, 10 pound dumbbells before, but I guess about as far as I've gone into weight bearing stuff. But.

Yeah, I just think that one thing I've noticed with Graham being a soccer player on William being a football player [00:28:00] is Graham is way more conditioned than William, even though they're two years apart, like if it was if the workout for today was run two miles, Graham would be like, whatever sounds easy.

And William would be like, this sucks, you know, because he's he's a football athlete. Like he runs the short burst and like, yeah. All that kind of stuff. And so me seeing that, just realize like these kids can get conditioned, you know, they can, they can get conditioned. So I've, I've increased William's conditioning quite a bit, um, to, to bring his conditioning up and then I've added a little bit more strength stuff to, they both had their pros and cons, right?

Like we're just talking aerobic conditioning. But if we're talking about strength, Williams way stronger than Graham, not only because he's older, but like just given the sport, right? So there's pros and cons to all of them. But, um, I, I realized that they can take more, but I, I still like, I'm super like, it's, I feel like I'm, I've got like a, like a [00:29:00] An egg, like, I'm just trying not to crack, you know, like I'm running down the road with this thing and it's jostling around, but I'm trying to keep it, like, I don't want to push them too hard, but I don't want to, if they don't get pushed, it won't be worth it.

It's like, you know, there's like a fine line, but I don't want to be the dad who's like militant training their kids into where they hate it. And they, all they remember is being forced to train. I don't want to be that guy. Uh, but at the same time, I don't want them to work out with me. And I know they're not putting in enough hard work and then they get to the field or whatever, and they're like.

Working out is useless. It's pointless. Like it hasn't helped me at all. You know what I'm saying? Cause that could happen. If you spend, if you're working out four or five days a week, but you're not really pushing it. And then you go to the field and you're like, what am, I'm wasting my time. So I don't want them to have that realization either.

So I'm trying to be somewhere in the middle of like, I need you to learn to push yourself. I'll be here to help guide you through that process, but I'm not going to push you too hard. I'm not going to let you live too heavy. And I think what you, you mentioned gymnastics. I think that that's some stuff like that is [00:30:00] great.

I think soccer is a phenomenal first sport. Uh, but as my kids get older and actually like start going through puberty and testosterone comes in, I'm really going to try to get them to go through bodybuilding cycles, like hypertrophy to some degree, but while, you know, obviously concurrent training, like, but I think having a really strong, solid base of muscle helps with everything.

I think every athlete I know. Who's done anything in the concurrent training space kind of started there, myself included. Like, I think it's just having that muscular strength base without having to go into the power lifting world. It's just so good. And ultimately that's what kids like 16 year old kids want anyway, right?

It's like bigger muscles and stuff. So it's not, it's not a hard thing to sell either, but like I'll run them through how to do it properly and without hopefully getting any of like mental disorders that come with, uh, You know, body dysmorphia and all these other kind of things that people struggle with

Joe: like muscle and body awareness on that anyway.

[00:31:00] And yeah, all the bone health associated associated with it and whatever. And just yeah,

Jerred: cool. Well, um, you want to dive into, uh, AI tech wearables?

Joe: Yeah, I mean, we've we've. Covered similar thing in the past, but I don't know how there's much to,

Jerred: yeah. Yeah. So I think who's talked a lot about wearables and, you know, we've, we've talked about whoop and Apple watch and Garmin and all these kinds of things.

But, um, I think, I think we're on the bubble of like this. Like I think, I think all this stuff is just like,

it's not going to be where we're at in a few years, like AI, AI is not good enough yet, like I think that it's so much more powerful than where we're at right now, you're talking about like Elon, Elon Musk with uh, [00:32:00] where, I mean he inserted in someone's brain, what's it called, Neuralink, um, have you seen that?

No. Yeah, so they did, it's called Neuralink, they actually, it looks like a hearing aid, it goes behind the guy's ear and then it like, implants directly into his brain, um, and he can control his computer. With his brain. Like, like he's, he's making the mouse like go move around the screen. He's just thinking about it.

Um, and the mouse is moving with his thought. Does it, like we're not, this is not a science fiction movie I'm talking about. This is like legitimate stuff. Um, And so I think we're at the, we're at the very start of that. Um, like, and I'm not even getting into the health side of like nanobots that can like be inserted into your blood and go kill diseases and stuff.

Those things are on the horizon too, but they might be further out. But I just think, I think people desire more like this, a more integrated approach, and I think it's coming. I think [00:33:00] it's coming from AI. Um, I think that'll get more integrated. I think, I think like blood testing is just going to get easier and easier.

I think that might be an at home thing sooner rather than later. Um, like a full blood panel might be able to just be done. At home.

Joe: Um, and again, it makes sense. I mean, they have those like glucose monitors. I mean, you wear one on your on your arm and like, there's a glucose monitor. There's not like any sort of complicated process.

So you would think that you have enough drops of blood and it would just spin in whatever the computer can just they learn to detect. Okay, you have this amount of this, this amount of this.

Jerred: Like, I think all of that's coming and it's getting faster. And I think, um, but I also feel like we're kind of on, like, we're on the stupid slow side of that right now.

And, um, that's my real thoughts. Like, I think really cool stuff is coming. I technology goes so fast. That's why I can't predict. Like it goes so fast, easy. I can't say it's a year away or five years or 10 [00:34:00] years away. My thought is it's probably five to 10 years away of like fitness, wearable tech stuff being like truly ingrained into our bodies.

It's like, You know, I don't know, like, uh, a contact lens that you wear that can take a picture of your food and like tell you all the macro nutrients in it. Um, and that might sound ridiculous, but I told you about the, the NutriSense app does that now, like I told you about that, right? It's, uh,

Joe: Oh yeah. It takes a picture.

Jerred: Yeah. I, you can take a picture of your food and it just tells you to the best of its ability, uh, What the macro breakdown of your food is because it uses AI to recognize all the foods and like the, the amounts. And I'm like, that's, that's incredible. Like, that's only a matter of time before we know exactly what's coming into our mouth, they know exactly what we're eating.

And so integrating those kinds of things more into our, like, without having, like the, having to sit around and like do the phone stuff, this is where, like, if I zoom out and just look at humanity, I feel like we look really [00:35:00] stupid. I'm just like, If you're just like an alien was watching, he's like, okay, the creature is about to eat.

It's like, Oh wait, it's pulling out some device. It's typing on the phones

Joe: are our overlords.

Jerred: Yeah. And so like, and I think that that step is just so stupid. I think, I think the phone steps going to get removed at some point. Like all the technology and things that we want, but minus the phone, that's where I think we're going.

Like, I think it's just going to be integrated somehow, either chips in the brain, glasses, contacts, something is going to happen to where we get that level. Like, if you just look at a Apple vision pro, right. No one wants to look like an idiot with his cell phone. Refrigerator attached to their head. Right.

Like, but it's really cool technology. Uh, and I'm sure lots of people love it and I'm sure there are people listening who have it, but it's kind of ridiculous. We'll make fun of that in a few years because it's like, it's like the first cell phone that came out, you know, it was like, it had like a briefcase battery pack and like, yeah, giant, like we make fun of that now, right?

Like [00:36:00] we'll make fun of the Apple vision pro that had a cord attached to the head with a battery pack. And it looks like you're wearing like a scuba diving goggles. Like, no, that's, that's stupid. Like it's. We'll be better than that in a few years and all these things will greatly increase. So I think that's where we're headed.

But like I said, I think we're on the stupid side of this stuff now where. People think the future is like the mirror like that you can attach on your wall and it walks you through a workout like no, that's all stupid stuff. That's like that's elementary stuff. That's not where we're on. We're on the stupid end of AI and tech right now.

We're not on the on where it's going to be, which I think is going to be a really cool, but also slightly frightening place.

Joe: Yeah, I did a little diving on. See if there's like AI coaches and stuff out there. And I mean, there's all kinds of different programs that will. You know, some of them just randomly generate other ones claim to be either AI or smart and like you mentioned the mirror or using your camera and they'll analyze it and I think there's just, there's, there's gonna be so many things like that to sift through that are just gonna be BS.

I looked up a couple of them [00:37:00] and most of the reviews were just like, yeah, this is sort of just generic. It's BS. And or like, there was this camera feature that's supposed to like. Watch your body and see how you move and tell you like how you need to do better moving or Generate the program the fitness program that's best for you, but it turns out to be somewhat generic And so now I think you know Once you hit check a certain amount of boxes you're going to spit out a program that it had before and they'll call it ai as You know, as you said, I just think to get smarter that all that's going to hook up to your wearables, your Garmin's, your apple watches, and it's going to really like tell you maybe even like, like, um, I was thinking about this on my run yesterday, so Garmin has the suggestion to suggested workouts.

Yeah, I did. I did the VO two max workout and usually there's like a 10 minute warm up and this one had two minute intervals and it gives you a pace and then there was a one minute like. Recovery interval and it was a slower pace and then so seven rounds of that and then another 10 [00:38:00] minute cool down and I was thinking like I thought I was three or four rounds through and I was like, yeah, it's getting a little harder to get through.

I wonder if, you know, one day, because it's just, it's, it sets your, your, um, pacing for you, but after three, four rounds or maybe the first couple rounds, it gives you a higher power output and then after three, four rounds, depending on what your power is or depending on what your heart rate is, it may adjust what your pacing needs to be.

So on the fly. It's told you how many intervals you're doing, but on the fly, it's going to adjust your, um, your pacing for you, kind of like in strength conditioning. If you're doing or in strength training, if you have a coach doing like reps and reserve and they see your velocity going down, that coach is going to tell you, okay, you know, maybe one or two reps and then you're done.

Or even now we've, we've read studies about velocity meters and they will train until they hit a certain velocity. And once that velocity hit is hit, it doesn't matter if they can do more reps, they've hit their velocity and then they're done. Yeah. So like combining that with your wearable to running conditioning of like power output [00:39:00] or pay or a heart rate or something like that is going to just tell you right on the fly of like, okay, now you're good.

That was the intent rest until this time. And then, and then go from there.

Jerred: Like I think, and that level of individualization that you're talking about is, that's kind of where I've always thought we were going, but if just think about the, like whether or not that's necessary is a separate conversation.

It's like, well, that's like. Super like detailed. Is that even necessary when you could just do a workout and it's like, yes and no, it's, it's not necessary, but think about how efficient it is because. You could do less work. No, like, I honestly feel like that's a lot of fitness. Sometimes it's like, um, you could talk to any coach and whether you're talking about the last few reps on a bicep curl on a back squat, or, you know, your last one to two intervals, like on a 400 meter sprint, like talk to any coach it's when you get to that point where like you do feel like you're breaking [00:40:00] down, you've got to push, you have to really push through the pain, that's where the growth happens, right?

Like that's where. The results are actually seen all that other stuff is like, it's the warmup. It's not actually the warmup, but it's like, as far as we're talking about, like results and growth, like if you want to move forward, you have to get to these points. And I think that if tech could know whether or not you're legitimately there, like, like you're talking about velocity, like if that was just ingrained into your barbell or a suit that you put on or whatever, like, uh, shorts that you wear, like, I don't

Joe: know, however

Jerred: it is, it's like,

Joe: I'm doing this exercise.

My hand's going to be here. Tell me my velocity. Cause your, your hand's not moving when you're on the bar, but when you're on a barbell or like the watch, we'll know you're going up and down or it's going up like that.

Jerred: Yeah. And so like, if it just knows like, Hey, you're slowing down and tells you to, you got headphones in your ear and it's like speed up or like, whatever, like it's going to make your workout so much more efficient.

Um, but then there's like. There's the [00:41:00] darker side of that, where my friend just told me about this. He was like, Oh, you'd love it. And I was like, well, see, but like you, you put on some sort of suit. I don't even know what this place is called. Okay. But you put on like this suit and then they like put all these like cables on you and the suit like Titans and like does all this stuff while they're running you through exercises and you can only work out for like 12 minutes.

And it's a franchise, right? Again, we're on the stupid side of fitness. Like that's that, and I'm not even like trying to make fun of the suit and like all this other kind of stuff. Like in this guy's getting a good workout, like he legitimately is. But one thing that's always going to be true is like, you can't cheat your biology, right?

We can, we can pretend like we can, but you can't actually, like, if you only ever exercise for 12 minutes a day, I don't care how many. Machines or sensors you have on you 12 minutes is not going to cut it. It's just not going to cut it. [00:42:00] Like, uh, with, with how our lifestyles are, how sedentary they've become with how hard it can be to battle diet, like 12 minutes of exercise, no matter the technology you're putting behind it is not going to cut it.

Um, so that's again, it's like the stupid side of things that I think we'll, we'll get over that hump. Like, we'll get over that hump and like, see that that's not how to make things more efficient. How to make things more efficient are things like you're talking about. Like, let's measure your bar speed when you're doing this stuff and make that super easy to do.

Or let's make blood work super easy to get and very, like, very low cost. And like, let's have something ingrained into Our actual, actual biometrics when we are doing that run workout. So we don't have to listen for four hours of zone two podcast to find out if I'm actually in my specific zone too, you know, like my watch would just know that because it's connected somehow and knows like it's either constantly measuring blood, blood lactate or whatever.

So anyway, I think that's the direction we're headed. I don't think it's. Again, there's a stupid side of this where people are just trying to use the buzzword AI to sell more [00:43:00] programs or whatever. Like we could do that garage gym athlete. Hell, maybe we will. Like I talked about how I gave all the rules of body geometry to AI and was like, had them programmed.

Did I tell you about that? Um, no. Oh yeah. Yeah. I

Joe: think so. Yeah.

Jerred: So body geometry has, it's just a set of rules. That's all of like one of our most, our best programming methodologies is a set of rules. Like, Shit ton of rules. When I wrote all the rules out, it was nine pages in a, in a Google doc. So I gave all these rules to chat GPT and had it program workouts and it programmed the workouts perfectly.

And so like, yeah, could we, could I only program with AI now and be like, Hey, AI powered workouts at garage gym, athlete, we sell more memberships. That's for sure. And again, I'm not saying we won't like, Hey, I'm not. It'd be true. But like, that's kind of what a lot of people are doing, right? Is like, uh, they're working AI into some degree, but it's not actually getting us to where where I think that we're headed.

And so I think that's the direction we're going.

Joe: Yeah, I went [00:44:00] through one of these AI coach sites that says they'll make one for you because curious about it. And they give you a questionnaire to answer first. And it was like it was like 10 minutes long. There was a bunch of questions to it. But I guarantee and like how would that one works and how we could make one works.

It would just like each level of questioning, it would equate to a certain amount of values of like whatever your goals are. And then we would just assign those to training blocks of whatever we want. And then it would spit out. Okay, those are your blocks. This is what you're, you know, you said you wanted this and that's going to equate for X amount of your goal.

That's going to, that means this is your major. This is your minor. And here's the feelings.

Jerred: Yeah, I think if, if we can give it the rules to follow, it can be really good. And I think that's where AI is. currently limited, but also like good. It's a good thing. Uh, and, and I've, I've messed around with AI a lot.

I'm a, I'm a big, I use AI quite a bit just because. I make some tasks in my job, uh, easier, quicker. Um, [00:45:00] and I think there are a lot of pros, uh, to it, but I'm always testing it and seeing what it knows, like, especially like in the fitness industry, like I turned on a chat GPT the other day, you can, you can turn it on your phone just to be in like audio mode, like, so you can have a conversation with chat GPT.

Um, and I was like, okay, chat GPT. I am an advanced strength and conditioning coach. I want you to do quiz me. on like anything you think I should know to determine whether or not I'm actually an advanced strength and conditioning coach. And then so it put together like a little quiz like asked me is like, okay, this question, I'd give an answer.

And then, um, he he AI would come back with like, yeah, good job, you know, whatever. And then the question slowly got more advanced. And I was becoming more impressed with the questions that they were asking, because I was at first, I was like, these things you're gonna ask really stupid questions, but they kind of start started off stupid, but they became more and more, uh, challenging [00:46:00] and not even challenging, like more nuanced.

It wasn't like, Like they were programming specific questions to like a person and then it would be like, it wouldn't be like ABC or D. It'd be like, walk us through your thought process on this. And I would explain how I'd program in that regards. Um, and I only played around with this for like five or 10 minutes, but I thought it was pretty interesting because I wanted to see by attesting me how smart it was, you know, like what kind of questions do you even know to ask me if I say I'm this thing?

Um, so it's pretty cool. But, um, yeah. All that to say, we're like, we're in a weird spot with AI where it's more of like, it's a helpful tool. It's a little bit gimmicky, but like. I think it's gonna be a major thing soon, especially in the fitness industry. I don't know how many industries it's going to disrupt.

Um, like could it break garage gym athletes or no one wants to do that anymore? Because it's just easy to go get AI programming somewhere else. Like, yeah, I, I, I don't know. And I'm not concerned about it either way. Like we'll, we'll adapt if we have to, but like, [00:47:00] it's just, it's an interesting. It's an interesting premise.

And so, yeah, I think we're headed in a cool direction. I'm interested to see where things go. And also could be the end of the world.

Joe: Yeah, well, I was going to get both sides of things. So I'm interested to see what kind of upgrades that happen, especially just like the devices that we that we that we use just like, Oh, yeah, that's a really cool feature that I'm going to enjoy using.

But you know, it wasn't something that I absolutely needed.

Jerred: Yeah. Cool. Uh, you got anything else?

Joe: Nope. Um, all this tech, talk of AI and tech, man, I, I, makes you want to look at a, a new garment, even though mine's fairly new. There's a Phoenix eight, you know, whenever that comes out, I was like, is that out? I saw, I saw like there's posts on rumors about an eight coming.

Jerred: Do they like sped up there? Not to go on like a huge garment tangent, but like, I feel like they used to do it like every couple of years. And now it's like, they're getting on like the Apple cycle where it's like once a year, I gotta, I gotta save [00:48:00] a thousand bucks a year for a new watch. Cause I'm going to buy

Joe: it.

It was like the Phoenix five for like four years. And then the six came out. And they were like, awesome. The six is out. And then the six lasted like two years and like, here's the seven. And then it was seven

Jerred: X like and then yeah,

Joe: uh, there's seven pro like one year later. It's like, Oh, here's the seven pro.

We just put all the good features into all the same thing. I'm like, Holy shit. Okay. What's going on now? Yeah. I hope, I hope that's not it. At least with these, they don't get outdated. Like people with the five still use theirs and like still love that. It still works really fine. You just don't get some of the new fancy stuff.

Jerred: Yeah. I mean, it's kind of like when I get a new Garmin now, it's kind of like getting a new iPhone. It's like, Yeah, it's the same. Yeah. It's like there's not a lot here. Um, it depends on how big of an upgrade. But if you're going from like, I went from the flashlight. Yeah, I went from like seven, whatever Phoenix, some Phoenix seven to the epics pro.

And I was like, Oh, yeah, the screen looks a little bit better, but it's basically the same. You know, it's like, it wasn't a huge, [00:49:00] huge change. Yeah. All right, cool. Well, we'll get out of here. If you are interested in AI powered Programming, go to garagegymathlete. com, sign up for a free trial. Um, we'd love to have you there for all of our athletes out there.

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